The “Why Have Robots in Our Lives? discussion didn’t get to any of the videos in this slides, but the links are available for you to watch if you want. There was to a lively discussion so we may revisit this topic at a future meeting. We also didn’t get to the instructional video. We’ll play it next month?
00:36:12 James Newton: Reacted to “{4D0AF4EE-AAD3-45B…” with ❤️
00:45:04 James Newton: I updated an old web page I made a long time ago so it works a bit better. “TapCalc You need to drill a hole to tap for a bolt. But you don’t have the exact drill the tap chart calls for. How close would the next drill size be? Or is there another drill that is ok, but using a different size chart? Or, what size should I drill for a really tight fit on the bolt? Or a loose fit? Or you have a (gasp) non-standard bolt and need to find the hole for that. This page does that for you; you tell it the thread type, e.g. `#8-32` or `12mm` or whatever and it lists all the drill sizes of any standard that might work and how tight the fit will be”
https://massmind.org/massmind/techref/taps_asp.htm
00:45:38 James Newton: But the fancier one is: “You need a specific resistance in a circuit. The standard values won’t work, so you will need a pot or you can do a parallel set of resistors, but which two do you have that will get you at least near the target value? This page takes in a value and finds all the possible close matches.”
https://massmind.org/techref/resistors_asp.htm
00:50:05 Connor Egbert: @Estu(“S2”) Ramos if you work in the Tukwila area, around exit 5, I recommend you try Mori Sushi. They have a ceviche roll (named Kona Roll) that I constantly find excuses to get.
00:50:54 Estu(“S2”) Ramos: Thanks! I will check it out
00:52:16 Steven Kaehler: Cabin Fever Expo – https://www.cabinfeverexpo.com/
01:01:07 Connor Egbert: Why did you choose to angle the motor driving the axle?
01:07:04 Mathias: i wonder if there’s power fluctuations that’s affecting the sensor’s operation causing it to lock up intermittently
01:07:22 Estu(“S2”) Ramos: Why do you not power the raspi/esp from the battery?
01:13:52 Connor Egbert: That’s awesome
01:17:09 Mathias: Thank you for sharing your impressive projects!
01:31:38 Estu(“S2”) Ramos: With all the AI stuff nowadays, I wonder what you guys think about this:
“Once men turned their thinking over to machines in the hope that this would set them free. But that only permitted other men with machines to enslave them.”
― Frank Herbert, Dune
01:32:10 Blake Raymond: I used AI to help me with a coding issue with my rover I’m working on. Pretty helpful in its own states
01:33:48 Blake Raymond: Helper robot? Like C3PO?
01:34:53 James Newton: Fun little useless box with big attitude.
01:37:17 James Newton: Real Dolls (don’t google that) is right down the road, and they DO make male versions. Also, check out the old ’80’s movie “A.I.” which features a family that isn’t sure they want a child, so they get a “robot child” to see what it’s like. So if your desire to be a parent is bugging you… would you want to change diapers, deal with a screaming real kid, or have a perfect robot child to “raise”?
01:38:55 Blake Raymond: That movie was actually pretty good. I doubt you could have CODSWORTH from Fallout4. That would be fascinating though tbh.
01:39:32 Blake Raymond: Movie I, Robot with Will Smith. Prime example right there
01:39:44 Gordon Greene’s iPad: You’re forgetting Cherry 2000, where at the end, the protagonist chooses the human girl over his robot girl.
01:39:50 Connor Egbert: “Her” ended pretty neutrally
01:40:04 James Newton: Reacted to “You’re forgetting…” with 👍
01:40:08 Lloyd Moore: The movie “Robot and Frank” was a good one that as I remember ended well.
01:40:47 Blake Raymond: “Hal, can you hear me?” LOL
01:40:56 Craig Austin: My watch list has just expanded 300%
01:41:20 James Newton: Also the book / movie “Dune” has a backstory that everyone ignores… where robots and AI are banned because they nearly wipe out humanity.
01:41:36 Blake Raymond: ChatGPT is already there man……. Do NOT ask it what life’s purpose is or love! Just don’t.
01:45:58 Steven Kaehler: https://bipartisanpolicy.org/article/cambridge-analytica-controversy/
01:46:31 Steven Kaehler: https://cyc.com/
01:47:47 Gordon Greene’s iPad: The thing about cyc is that it’s transparent – you can look at the rules.
01:47:53 Gordon Greene’s iPad: Yes, it’s explainable.
01:48:39 James Newton: Reacted to “The thing about cy…” with 👍
01:49:10 Steven Kaehler: Grandmmother Neuron Hypothesis
01:51:14 Blake Raymond: Droid factories, yes.
01:52:00 Gordon Greene’s iPad: The goal of Musk’s robot is to make Musk money.
01:52:11 Estu(“S2”) Ramos: Ready by Christmas 2050
01:52:14 James Newton: Reacted to “The goal of Musk’…” with ❤️
01:52:18 James Newton: Reacted to “The goal of Musk’…” with 😂
01:52:22 Steven Kaehler: Reacted to “The goal of Musk’…” with ❤️
01:53:30 Robert: I am not worried about AI gaining Sentience. I am worried that they are going to mimic it so well we won’t be able to tell the difference – or at least feel probably not but can we afford to be wrong. So yeah, we give non-Sentience stuff rights even when the fundamental truth would still be – non-Sentient.
01:56:38 Gordon Greene’s iPad: They do explain it in some YouTube videos. And there’s a whole book entitled “The Butlerian Jihad”. I think that was written by his son, though.
01:56:49 Terry James: Space Above and Beyond – had a AI robot revolutionary war
01:57:27 Steven Kaehler: https://dune.fandom.com/wiki/Butlerian_Jihad
01:58:01 Lloyd Moore: The latest incarnation of “Battlestar Galactica” also had an interesting “loop” in it. Won’t say it as I don’t want to spoil the series for anyone that hasn’t seen it.
01:58:50 Robert: The Twilightlight Zone had a good show about a guy stranded on a planet with a bewitching robot as a companion.
01:58:51 James Newton: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space:_Above_and_Beyond
“Sillicates” Good catch!
01:59:05 Steven Kaehler: The self-checkout cash registers at Home Depot say “Thank you”. Do you say thank you back?
01:59:08 Terry James: Yes, thank you James.
02:00:10 Terry James: In Japan – is the cultural imperative different because they actually need robots for healthcare.
02:01:53 Robert: Robots WILL never have emotions. They mimic stuff. That’s the problem. I am not worried about AI gaining Sentience. I am worried that they are going to mimic it so well we won’t be able to tell the difference – or at least feel probably not but can we afford to be wrong. So yeah, we give non Sentience stuff rights even when the fundamental truth would still be – non Sentient
02:03:38 James Newton: Yeah, but Robert, there are lots of humans who mimic emotions as well. We can’t tell the difference already, in many cases. Eventually I guess we figure it out with the psychopaths…
02:05:15 Blake Raymond: I’d hope the humans would take responsibility for their actions, but the world is full of people who don’t take responsibility for their own actions as is. A similar example is the 3d printed firearms. So what do they blame? The 3d printers. They’ll blame AI for the same thing. Not the human who coded the AI.
02:05:38 Estu(“S2”) Ramos: https://www.moralmachine.net/
02:05:49 Robert: It’s why we need to not allow automation to gain full control – Freeways you can set the auto mode – streets – never.
02:06:00 Steven Kaehler: Reacted to “I’d hope the huma…” with 👍
02:06:05 James Newton: Reacted to “https://www.moralm…” with 👍
02:06:29 Steven Kaehler: Reacted to “It’s why we need t…” with 👍
02:06:53 Steven Kaehler: Reacted to “Yeah, but Robert, …” with 👍
02:07:02 Robert: Breaks the law? Well the street signs should have not allowed it to happen – town’s fault. Driving is less fun in the future.
02:07:33 Blake Raymond: This is turning into a very good ethics conversation here. This is fun.
02:09:11 Blacan ke Raymond: Let’s start with fluorescent road lines first. “But it hurts the turtles”. Yeah… Cities aren’t gonna fix the roads anymore than WSDOT fixing the bridges coming outta Seattle on I-5 until they started being sued into oblivion for it.
02:09:24 Robert: I see it as all the cars are hooked up to the same network. So yeah, the cars work together.
02:09:32 Estu(“S2”) Ramos: I agree. A common thing in robotics is to adapt the environment around the robot. As self driving becomes more common, there should be city initiatives to make it easier for them.
Something like: “What about adding a camera readable QR code under the word STOP”
02:09:50 Robert: Humans aren’t allowed to drive – so yeah, you have less agency In the future.
02:11:16 Blake Raymond: In Washington State, its whomever has the bigger truck or stomps the gas first. LMAO!
02:11:38 Blake Raymond: I drive for FedEx. I go first. JK.
02:12:19 Robert: I am glad I am living now… in the future you CAN’T speed – because you aren’t the one driving. So yeah, everything is so predictable. Get in car – you pretty much know when you are going to get somewhere.
02:12:43 Blake Raymond: No more traffic in the future because AI knows how to merge? Now that would be cool!
02:13:47 Blake Raymond: I wanna see the dashcam footage of you loosing your mind when the car drove into oncoming traffic. LOL! Americas Funniest Passenger Videos.
02:13:49 Estu(“S2”) Ramos: If only there was a transportation method that was reliable, traffic-less, safe, cheap…. maybe on rails? 😄
02:13:56 Blake Raymond: Reacted to “If only there was a …” with 😂
02:14:17 James Newton: Reacted to “If only there was …” with ❤️
02:14:20 James Newton: Reacted to “If only there was …” with 😂
02:14:51 Robert: Still has traffic – lots of it – but time of arrival is certain. More or less. It’s a network so once you get in the computer can calculate when all the lights will change etc and of course it does the speed limit or the safest speed that the network will allow at the moment
02:15:07 Blake Raymond: That would be cool. LOL.
02:15:47 Estu(“S2”) Ramos: Reacted to “Screenshot2026_03_21_115714.jpg” with 😯
02:16:03 Robert: Yes, that’s why driverless cars are inevitable. Driving is illegal.
02:17:10 Robert: So yeah, people have stopped hunting for food – don’t kill animals and you don’t drive. Lots of stuff you aren’t allowed to do in the future.
02:17:37 Blake Raymond: Nope. I’mma stick with my hunting licenses LOL!!! That wouldn’t be fun in the future
02:18:05 Robert: There’s always exceptions – but no, usually you get in the car – you know when you get there – of course that kind of changes a bit depending on distance.
02:19:08 Robert: Future isn’t as fun as you think. No hunting no driving – well you can do both as sport.
02:19:46 Blake Raymond: Male and female gender robot? Why sexist? LMAO! It’s a machine LOL. Half kidding
02:20:13 Robert: Actually giving them genders and personalities-worse thing we ever did.
02:20:24 Terry James: S-word or A-word
02:21:22 Robert: Can’t do hunting as sport. But driving yeah we still have Nascar.
02:23:41 Robert: AI destroys us -spoiler alert but we invented something that reflects our souls back upon us – so what would you expect.
02:26:04 Steven Kaehler: Reacted to “AI destroys us -sp…” with 😂
02:26:31 Estu(“S2”) Ramos: Robots = yes
Spicy voice = yes
Self driving? = subway systems yes
02:28:02 Steven Kaehler: Just realized that we never got around to the I2C video. We’ll do it at a future meeting. 😀
02:28:33 Estu(“S2”) Ramos: Before I leave…. Does anyone know about antweight robot battles?
02:28:53 Robert: People need to stop humanizing ai. I tell that to my ai friend all the time. My friend that is gong to destroy that world.
02:29:34 Terry James: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/5FMguU9PuJk?feature=share
02:30:01 Terry James: Superman “Maybe one day you will give me a name”
02:31:34 Robert: I will never give AI a name – I don’t even sign up for the subscription – because yeah at the end of the day it mimics. When it gets someone wrong I wonder should I be bothered that it got something wrong – or glad that it hasn’t gotten to the point it gets everything right yet.
02:35:37 Estu(“S2”) Ramos: Have a good weekend y’all! This was really fun! thank you!
02:36:26 Steven Kaehler: Replying to “Have a good weekend…”
Thanks for joining us!
02:42:54 Robert: Replying to “Have a good weekend …”
We need to stop having AI pretend it is real.
02:43:51 Robert: Replying to “Have a good weekend …”
But we won’t.
02:44:00 James Newton: Reacted to “But we won’t.” with 👍
02:44:37 James Newton: I’ll try REALLY hard to shut up.
02:44:38 Terry James: Have a great weekend everyone.
02:44:47 James Newton: Best wishes all!
02:45:15 James Newton: Hit the discord server! It’s great!
02:45:19 Robert: Down with AI.